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We're going nowhere with Juwan Howard (5)10-19-2001, 01:06 PM#1

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Just wanted to start a thread with a title like this before murph did...

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Dammit! he already beat me! the site hasn't been up for even a couple hours, and he already started a juwan thread! you amaze me, murph. man, are you dedicated to your cause.

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We're going nowhere with Juwan Howard (39)10-19-2001, 01:11 PM#3

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We're going nowhere with Juwan Howard (71)10-19-2001, 01:16 PM#5

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i wouldn't say that the mavs are going nowhere with juwan starting.. i just don't think they'll go to the championship with him starting.. that's all

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We're going nowhere with Juwan Howard (87)10-19-2001, 10:42 PM#6

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I think that we could do a lot better with anthony mason in there. He can rebound, score and he has one hell of a body to play physical basketball. He could run juwan into the ground.

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We're going nowhere with Juwan Howard (92)10-20-2001, 01:21 AM#7

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yeah, i feel the same way as well...
but, i guess they can't pay juwan all that money to be a sixth man.. even though his defense will continue to be a huge problem

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We're going nowhere with Juwan Howard (108)10-20-2001, 04:10 AM#8

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Hey Murph, stop dissin JH! He had a pretty good game yesterday! 14P+10R

I know his d still isn't really good...
Antony Mason would help us more, but we already have Juwan.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

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We're going nowhere with Juwan Howard (119)10-20-2001, 09:36 AM#9

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stop dissing juwan?
all i said is that the mavs woul be better with a player at the 4 spot that could rebound and play defense better.
and i was very nice about it.

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We're going nowhere with Juwan Howard (135)10-20-2001, 12:29 PM#10

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The obsession with Anthony Mason must end. The guy's a serious sociopath, and we're better off without him... I wish there was some way he could sign with Sacramento- that would be perfect...

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We're going nowhere with Juwan Howard (143)10-20-2001, 01:27 PM#11

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Well I'm sure not one of those obssesed with Mason.

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We're going nowhere with Juwan Howard (159)10-20-2001, 08:12 PM#12

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You don't think that makes up for your patently false opinions regarding Bradley, do you Rob?

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We're going nowhere with Juwan Howard (167)10-20-2001, 08:27 PM#13

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If y'all are still talking about Mason, I'm surprised Larry Johnson talk hasn't surfaced yet...

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We're going nowhere with Juwan Howard (183)10-20-2001, 10:28 PM#14

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I dont know that anyone here is obsessed with Anthony Mason, Im just stating facts that he averages a double double every night when he was in miami, I agree he is a hut case, but he plays hard and agressive. Just what we need, to throw our weight around. I do not believe we can win a championship with Howard at the starting position. I may be wrong, If I am, I will admit it.

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We're going nowhere with Juwan Howard (188)10-20-2001, 10:47 PM#15

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I agree that we probably won't win a title with Howard but if we're talking about winning a title, the problem lies with the big guy in the middle. Not Howard [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] .

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We're going nowhere with Juwan Howard (204)10-21-2001, 10:38 AM#16

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well, rob, it's easier to get a guy that can play very solid defense at the 4 spot than it is the 5. and the mavs do have a guy at the 5 spot that would fit very nicely with a solid defenisve player at the 4 spot.
if you have a good defensive, big body at the 4, bradley would be a wonderful fit

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We're going nowhere with Juwan Howard (228)10-21-2001, 01:20 PM#18

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So you think we have a better shot at a Title with lets say a Bradley/Mason combo then a Duncan or Robinson/Howard combo? No way!

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We're going nowhere with Juwan Howard (244)10-21-2001, 03:47 PM#19

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<< So you think we have a better shot at a Title with lets say a Bradley/Mason combo then a Duncan or Robinson/Howard combo? No way! >>

That's not really a fair comparison- Tim Duncan is a superstar power forward and probably the second best player in the league, while Anthony Mason is an undersized tough-but-average PF with a severe attitude problem. I would say we're more likely to win a championship with a Duncan/Bradley frontcourt than we are with a Howard/Duncan frontcourt.

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But if we had Mase we probably couldn't reach out for Duncan!
This still looks like the perfect team: Duncan-Howard-Nowitzki-Finley-Nash

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We're going nowhere with Juwan Howard (263)10-22-2001, 05:09 PM#21

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Hey Murph, just curious but would the La Lakers still be the Champions if they had juwan howard instead of horace grant?

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yes mavsfan, because the lakers would still have a dominating inside presence on defense...juwan would be a very nice fit with the lakers..would give them a great third scoring option

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Anthony Mason - a 6'8&quot; Power forward that cries if he doesn't get the ball enough. Just what the Mavs need. Do you really think he'll fare better against Shaq or Duncan than Howard will. I won't even mention the fact that his back to the basket, catch and dribble, isolation dependant scoring ability is about to be obliterated by the new zone defense rules. Did I mention he'd probably cost a fortune to aquire? Thanks but no thanks, I'll stick with Howard. There is a reason Mason can't land a job in the NBA. It sounds like the basketball leagues in Europe, Israel, Siberia or Pakistan might be calling soon for our good friend Anthony.

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I would have liked to see Our Friend Anthony end up in Siberia, but I heard a rumor the Bucks have signed him...

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First off, I'd like to say its great to be back on the only Mavs board with a cumulative IQ in the plus side.
I've never got into the Juwan argument, but just for the record, I think he'll do until we can get an inside force that's not such a weenie. He can score, but he gets used on defense and on the boards. I'm not sure of the exact record, but the Mavs were pretty close to undefeated when they out-rebounded the opponent. If we could get a Danny Fortson or Ben Wallace type player in there to mix it up and clean the glass a little, this team would be among the top 3 teams in the league for a long while. IMO

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Im not trying to make any nonsense here, but talking about anthony costing us a lot of money, Juwan is costing the mavericks 18 million or more a year

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Of course the Lakers would have won the championship too with JH. They don't need a too good defender cause they have Shaq, the zone monsta.

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The reason I asked the ? is because.....Juwan is our 4th option if our top options are good enough (ie. LA)....you can win regardless of who your 4th option is....

if your saying that all we need is a low post defender then your problem should go more to the way of saying we will never win a championship with howard and bradley as our 4 and 5...rather then just making it sound as if the only solution is to get rid of juwan...

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we need a physical-type rebounding/defending big man.

shaq is that for the lakers. among other things.

juwan isn't. i do agree that there isn't anyone available that could fill that for us. juwan is an above average PF, and he will be fine.

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Well hopefully Juwan is going to make a more concious effort about rebounding this year. He has said for every rebound and assist he gets this year he will donate $50 to the relief fund in DC from the 9/11/01 attacks.

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