NEED SOME HELP SMOKING! - Welcome discussion (2024)

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It's far from the easiest thing to get down. I often remarked at the start that one could have a lifetime supply of DMT, but if one doesn't know what to do with it, one wouldn't think it could do much at all.

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its pretty much the worst way. Just get some IPA/Acetone and infuse some herb and then smoke it in a bong like weed.

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Its the absolute worst method you can use! Just Infuse or a good sandwhich method in a bong. Dont make it more complicated than it needs to be. Meth pipes simply burnj the sht out of the spice and lots of other problems. trust me I used one for close to a year before i came to my senses and had a less than 50% nbreakthrough avergae at best.

Did you read the sticky in the smoking section?

Please read this and save yourself a ton of time and wasted DMT.

The best advice I can probably give is to buy some herbs and make changa!

My 'recipe' is 1:1 Herb to DMT.

80% 10x Caapi Leaf and 20% Mullein
(Caapi can be used for 100% though, other herbs are just 'there'.

Example, 1g DMT, 800mg Caapi Leaf, 200mg Mullein

Dissolve DMT in shot glass full of 99% IPA, just enough IPA to dissolve the spice. Add herbs, and let them soak in the IPA for a couple hours, then place the shot glass beside a fan on LOW, or underneath a fan that is blowing down into the shot glass.

Once the herbs are completely dry, you should have the weight of spice and herb combined (2g total now as per this example). Once dry, put a measured dose in any bubbler, bong, pipe, vaporizer, joint (joints are wasteful though).

You don't have to spend any money on a GVG, or spend money trying to build a DIY vape.

Once I switched to changa, I haven't looked back, and when I extract I make changa as soon as I have a good amount of spice completely dry of naptha.

does it have to be caapi leaf?? could i just use this. with some weed or peppermint or parsley something? Are harmalas required?

I guess I'm just a little confused between changa and enhanced leaf maybe?

Yeah, I read through the sticky a time or two, but I'm not a well versed individual on cooking up those sorts of recipes. So I figured I'd take the "easy" route and get a pipe, as I've also read individuals have had great success with it. But, if changa is really the ultimate way to go, I'll definitely take the time to learn and make some for the benefit of having the best experience.

Luckly up the street 2 blocks from the head shop is an herb shop, comprised of pretty much any "spirit" herb you can think of. This is in Lawrence, KS. You can all pretty much imagine that being a college town, there are a lot of "hippies".... And there are a LOT of them here, therefore we have head shops and spirit herb shops. Unfortunately they had to stop selling mimosa hostilis about a year ago. Through you guys' experiences, what herbs should I pick up for the best changa mix and how much? I heard blue lotus is good. Also is acetone a good way to go?

So let me get this straight, and please correct me if wrong... Take some spirit herb, apply acetone then DMT, allow to dry for a couple of hours, then profit? Or acetone in a cup, add DMT to dissolve in acetone, then add to herb? Say I have 1G of DMT (which I'll have shortly).. how much acetone per DMT, and how much herb to add Ac/DMT mixture to? And I take it IPA is Isopropyl Alcohol? So many questions and answers to learn from!

From what I've read, the DMT needs to be absorbed into the leaf, and I am not sure if water can achieve that as well as IPA does. Don't quote me on that as I have only ever used 99% IPA to make changa (and as long as you get a sum weight of herb+dmt, the IPA will have all evaporated, it just needs sufficient time to dry).

The herb needs to contain an MAOI in order for it to be considered a true 'changa' blend. It can generally be any plant material that contains harmala alkaloids, or an extracted harmala alkaloid itself, mixed in with the blend. If it doesn't contain an MAOI, it is only considered enchanced leaf, not changa.

There is a sticky in the Changa subforum that sums up pretty well everything you need to know about Changa, the rest can be searched and found on this board. The members here are very knowledgeable, I just creep around and just haven't 'introduced' myself

If you can extract DMT, you can make Changa, it is EXTREMELY easy and well worth the time, money and effort.

1. Take DMT, put it in shot glass. (1:1 ratio works best, if you go more herb than DMT, you'll end up with a little too much herb to smoke to get a high enough dose)
2. Add acetone/IPA, enough to dissolve the DMT.
3. Mix it around so it dissolves as much as possible.
4. Add the herb blend you would like to use (DO NOT ADD BLUE LOTUS INTO THE IPA/ACETONE)
5. Let it evaporate, a fan works wonderfully.

Once it dries completely, and the sum weight is that of the herb+dmt, you are all set to smoke it.

Blue Lotus Petal is good to add to changa blends, but only after the changa has dried, you can add it. IPA/Acetone ruins the Blue Lotus, and when it dries it won't be very nice to smoke.

My first changa blend was 50% Caapi, 30% Mullein, 20% Blue Lotus. After making that blend I dropped the blue lotus because it didn't 'add' anything to the blend (it made the smoke a little bit harsh for me). I upped the Caapi to 80% and Mullein to 20% (Mullein is there just because it adds a little more 'color' and base to the blend, it also smokes well).

IPA = Isopropyl Alcohol. 99% works best (99% alcohol, 1% water)

I can't speak of experience with acetone, as I have never used it to make changa, but I have read that it works better than IPA.

You will not be disappointed if you follow the changa route.

so was having problems with my camera, but mine looks exactly like this one.. what i do is make a little depression in the chore\scrubber with a pencil eraser and put the dose in it while holding the bottle with neck opening up of course and then (w torch lighter) heat the neck of the bottle for about 3 seconds.. that lets the d melt into the chore.. then once cooled, i take the chore ball out, flip over and reinsert. Good to go, just hold the flame at the opening of the bottle, hold the bottle upside down or near vertical (so d doesn't melt to the sides) and take her on home. I just don't see how people have trouble with it. It really is easy. From what I can see and you pointed out, the neck of the flask is not long enough, hence why a Hennessy bottle is perfect, like it was made for it... there are others liquor bottles that are almost identical and work just as well of course. Anyway, over and out. good luck.

How do you take the core out and flip it over? With your hands or tweezers?

What size is that bottle? Hard to tell the scale.

I'm shocked you were even able to find this website, or connect to the internet with a question like that.

Should I flip a pancake with a funnel? Or just use a shoe? lol

That question just begs for a smart @$$ answer,Sorry! No offense..

Lol.... I just used a pencil last time, but whatever works, probably not a shoe though. Main thing is just let it cool after melting the d and you can handle it with your hands, the D will no longer be visible as it will have meltded in with the chore boy. And again, it doesn't take much to melt it, a few seconds of heating the bottle neck will do it.

It is a small bottle, like the ones on an airplane or a hotel servibar.

Old thread, But awesome description. Thank you! As it seems, many people here swear by the GVG, but I don't want to spend $110 right now for that. Still aiming to perfect the use of the machine. Although Changa and enhanced leave seem also the thing to do. More research for me.

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